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Messianic Prophecy in the Old Testament Fulfilled in Jesus

Were the Messianic Prophecies Written Before Jesus?

(P1) A text can be a prediction only if it existed before the event. + Before a prediction is a claim about content, it is a claim about timing. Whatever the words say, they forecast nothing at all unless they were fixed before the thing they describe. (1) A forecast written after the fact is not a forecast at all. - Think of it this way. A friend hands you a sealed envelope before kickoff and tells you not to open it until the game is over. You do as you are told, and when you finally tear it open you find the final score on a card inside, exact, both teams. That is worth something. You would probably spend the rest of the evening asking how it got there. - Now change one detail and leave everything else alone. You learn that your friend wrote the card during the fourth quarter and sealed the envelope on the way out of the stadium. Not a letter on the card has changed. The evidence is simply gone. - Notice what was doing the work. Timing carried the whole weight the entire time, and it is easy to miss, because the content is the part you can see and the timing is not written anywhere on the card. (2) Israel's law makes prior announcement the public test of a prophet. - Moses gives the people a way to catch a man who is speaking for himself rather than for God: • "And if you say in your heart, How may we know the word that the LORD has not spoken?—when a prophet speaks in the name of the LORD, if the word does not come to pass or come true, that is a word that the LORD has not spoken." (Deuteronomy 18:21-22) - It is a test an ordinary Israelite could run without help from a scholar. Listen to what the man says, mark it, wait, and see whether it happens. - What gives the rule its teeth is that it can convict. A standard that only ever confirms is no standard at all, and this one was written so that it could go the other way. - The same law is careful not to let the test do too much, though. Deuteronomy 13:1-3 imagines a prophet whose sign does come true, and who then tells Israel to go after other gods, and it says to reject him anyway. Coming true is what a true prophet has to do. It was never all he had to do. (3) Israel's God stakes his own identity on announcing the future in advance. - Isaiah stages a courtroom. God summons the gods of the nations, and once they are assembled he gives them a single task to perform in front of the court: "bring your proofs... Tell us what is to come hereafter, that we may know that you are gods." (Isaiah 41:21, 23) - Five chapters later the same claim arrives without the courtroom: "Remember the former things of old; for I am God, and there is no other; I am God, and there is none like me, declaring the end from the beginning and from ancient times things not yet done." (Isaiah 46:9-10) - So the claim on the table is not that fulfilled prophecy is impressive. It is that nothing else can do this, which is a far riskier thing to say and a far easier thing to disprove. (4) A prophecy written after its event is not weak evidence but none. - A tip on a horse that arrives after the race is not a poor tip. It is not a tip at all, and naming the winner correctly does nothing whatever to make it one. - There is a temptation here worth resisting. Counting a late text as a little bit of evidence anyway is the fastest way to lose a hearing from someone who came in willing to listen. A standard is worth most in exactly the places where it costs something. - All of this fixes the order in which the questions have to be asked, and it is not the order most people start with. The first question about a disputed passage is not what it means. The first question is when the words were written down. Therefore, priority in time is not one consideration among several but the condition a prediction has to meet before its content matters at all.

(P2a) Copies of the prophetic books survive from more than a century before Jesus. + The dating question has an unusually concrete answer: the copies are still here. (1) The Great Isaiah Scroll is a complete copy made around 125 BC. - Bedouin shepherds found it in a cave above the Dead Sea in 1947, stored in a tall clay jar. It runs twenty-four feet unrolled, about the length of two small cars parked end to end, in fifty-four columns carrying all sixty-six chapters of Isaiah. - It is kept at the Shrine of the Book in Jerusalem, and the Israel Museum has photographed it column by column and put the images online. Anyone who wants to see the letters can go and look at them tonight. - The part that matters most comes near the end of the scroll. It carries Isaiah 52:13 through 53:12, the passage the whole dispute over the suffering servant turns on, in substantially the form a reader finds in a Bible today. (2) The other books at issue came out of the same caves. - Daniel is the one people ask about, and eight copies of it survive: two from Cave 1, five from Cave 4, and one written on papyrus from Cave 6. Every one of those caves sits above Qumran, the ruined settlement beside the shore. - The earliest is catalogued as 4QDan-c, which is a shelf label and nothing more: cave 4 at Qumran, the book of Daniel, the third copy on the list. Its handwriting belongs to the late second century BC, and since critical scholarship dates the book itself to about 165 BC, that copy was made roughly fifty years later. - Fifty years is a very short gap for an ancient book. Picture something published the year you were born being copied out by hand while you are still going to work. - The others are there in quantity as well. Twenty-one copies of Isaiah came from the same collection, and Micah and Zechariah belong to the Twelve, the twelve shorter prophetic books copied together on one scroll, which goes back to about 150 BC. No book survives in more manuscripts than the Psalms. (3) The prophets were circulating in Greek before the first century. - Around 130 BC a translator in Egypt, grandson of the man who wrote the Jewish wisdom book Ben Sira, mentioned in his preface that the Law, the Prophets and the rest of the books were already in Greek. That ancient Greek version of the Hebrew Scriptures is what scholars call the Septuagint. • He is not arguing that it exists. He mentions it in passing, the way you would mention a bus timetable, and that is what makes the remark worth so much. - A Greek scroll of the Twelve turned up in a cave at Nahal Hever, dated by its editors to the last century BC. Refugees carried it into that cave a century and a half later, by which time it was already an antique. - A translation proves the original was there first, since nobody translates a book that has not been written yet. (4) Handwriting is not the only clock in the room. - Those dates come from palaeography, which means dating a manuscript by the shape of its letters, much as handwriting from 1890 does not look like handwriting from 1960. The scale is anchored to contracts and deeds that carry their own dates. - A second clock runs on entirely different principles. Radiocarbon dating measures how much of a radioactive form of carbon is left in the parchment or in the linen it was wrapped in, since that carbon decays at a known rate once the animal or the flax plant dies. - Two laboratories ran that test on batches of the Judean desert manuscripts in the 1990s, and for the Great Isaiah Scroll the answer came back in the last two centuries BC. Two clocks with nothing in common, pointing at the same stretch of time. Therefore, the physical evidence puts the Hebrew and the Greek prophets in circulation more than a century before Jesus was born, and it does so without anyone taking a position on who wrote them.

(P2b) Every dating scheme anyone defends places the prophetic books centuries before Jesus. + The manuscripts settle one half of the dating question. The other half is when the books were composed, and there the striking thing is that the answer holds whichever side of the scholarly dispute turns out to be right. (1) Even the latest date anyone publishes falls centuries before Jesus. - The standard critical position, meaning the view taken in the mainstream academic commentaries, divides Isaiah in two or three. Chapters 40 through 55 are assigned to the Babylonian exile around 540 BC, and 56 through 66 to a period later still. The two-part division goes back to the late eighteenth century, and the three-part version was set out in an influential commentary of 1892. - Daniel's usual critical date is about 165 BC, in the middle of the Maccabean crisis, when the Greek king Antiochus IV outlawed Jewish worship and a Jewish family called the Maccabees led a revolt against him. - Traditional dating, by contrast, puts Isaiah in the eighth century BC and Daniel in the sixth. The disagreement between the two camps is real and it is serious, and specialists have spent well over a century on it. - A minority school goes later than anybody: it dates the formation of much of the Hebrew Bible to the Hellenistic period, the centuries after Alexander's conquests in the late fourth century BC. That is the latest position anyone publishes, and even it lands before the copies in the caves were made. - For the question of priority, then, the whole dispute is about nothing. Every one of those dates sits centuries before the events at issue. (2) Who wrote a book and when its text was fixed are two different questions. - Think of an anonymous letter. You may have no idea whose hand held the pen and still know to the day when the envelope went into the box, because a postmark does not care who wrote what is inside. - The dispute over Isaiah is a dispute about the pen. The manuscripts answer the postmark question, and they answer it the same way whichever direction the first dispute finally goes. (3) The narrowest gap in the whole dispute is still about two centuries wide. - Daniel is the tight case, and even there the numbers are not close: roughly 165 BC on the critical dating, against a ministry in Jerusalem around AD 30. - Two centuries, give or take. That is about the distance from now back to the 1830s, which is to say well outside anybody's living memory in either direction. (4) Granting the critical dates makes the case stronger rather than weaker. - Anyone who has met this subject before comes in braced for a fight about who wrote Isaiah 40 through 66. That fight can be handed over in full, for the sake of the argument, without costing anything at all. Granting a date to see what follows from it is not the same as holding it. - Think of an alibi that holds even when you accept the prosecution's own timeline. It is worth far more than an alibi that first requires the timeline to be changed, and the case for priority is the first kind. - There is a further benefit, and it matters most to a reader who holds no particular view of Scripture. Priority turns out not to require one. Therefore, on every dating scheme currently defended by anyone at all, these books were finished long before the events they are said to describe.

(C1) Therefore, the messianic texts meet the condition every genuine prediction must meet. + The messianic texts clear the gate. They were written, copied and circulating in public long before the events they are said to describe, so nothing about their timing disqualifies them from counting as predictions. The reasoning that gets there is deductive, and deductive reasoning works like links in a chain: if every link holds, the conclusion cannot slip out. This chain is a short one. (P1) sets the condition every prediction has to meet, and (P2a) and (P2b) show that these texts meet it. A link holds when it is more plausible than its denial, which is a good deal less than proof beyond all doubt, and that is the standard each of these premises has to clear. Two lines converge on the same answer, and neither leans on the other. The manuscripts are physical objects with a measurable age. The composition dates come from specialists working on the books' language and contents, and the latest of those dates were set by scholars with no interest whatever in the Christian conclusion. Either line would carry the point on its own. Together they leave the dating charge with nowhere to stand. So the claim that these passages were composed after the events they describe is false, and it is not a close call. Now for the part that is easier to overclaim, and more interesting anyway. Being early is a necessary condition for a prediction, which is to say that no text lacking it can be a prediction at all. It is nowhere near a sufficient condition, the kind that settles a matter by itself. A text can be old, well attested, and still not be about anybody in particular. Whether Isaiah 53 describes an individual, whether Micah's line about Bethlehem names a birthplace, whether Daniel's sequence lands where Christians say it lands: those are separate questions with separate answers, and not one of them is settled by a date. Clearing this gate wins nothing. What it does is make the rest of the case possible.

(P3) The Hebrew prophetic text was preserved by people with no stake in the Christian claim. + Dating answers one charge. A second and better one is still standing: that the words were quietly adjusted later, by people who already knew how the story turned out. (1) Nobody could reach the scrolls between the first century and 1947. - The copies are older than the church. The Great Isaiah Scroll was written around 125 BC, and the jars went into the caves by about AD 68, when Roman troops reached the settlement during the first Jewish revolt. - Nobody opened them in between. A text already a century and a half old when it went into the ground, and untouched there until a Bedouin shepherd's stone rattled inside a jar, is a text no Christian hand ever reached. - Think of a sealed time capsule. It is not good evidence because the people who filled it were honest. It is good evidence because nobody could get at it afterward, honest or otherwise. (2) The Hebrew was copied for centuries by scribes who reject the Christian reading. - The Masoretes, the Jewish scholars who standardized the Hebrew Bible between roughly the seventh and tenth centuries AD, counted things obsessively. They counted the letters in a book, and the words, and the verses, and they noted the middle letter of a book in the margin so a copyist could check his own work against it. • The text they fixed is what scholars call the Masoretic text, and it is the Hebrew standing behind the Old Testament in an English Bible today. - A scribe who knows the middle letter of the book in front of him is not quietly adding lines to it. - And the community keeping those counts is the community that does not accept the Christian reading of the passages in question. Lawyers call the unbroken record of who held a piece of evidence its chain of custody, and this is about as hostile a chain of custody as evidence ever gets. - Hostile custody is worth more than friendly custody, for a plain reason. These scribes had no motive to help the Christian case and every motive to trim it, and the disputed passages are still sitting there in their text. (3) Three separate lines of transmission agree. - There is the Hebrew sealed in the caves, the Hebrew copied down the centuries by the Masoretes, and the Greek translated by Jews before Christ. Three routes out of antiquity, with no opportunity anywhere along the way for the three to be coordinated. - Where they differ, the differences are visible and small, which is the assessment of the textual specialists rather than of apologists. The Great Isaiah Scroll is a thousand years older than the oldest medieval Hebrew Bible and is still recognizably the same book. • The Greek line needs one qualification, and it is a real one. The Septuagint as it survives in the great codices, the bound volumes with pages that eventually replaced the scroll, was copied mainly by Christians. So when the question is specifically whether Christian hands shaped the text, it is the Hebrew lines that carry the weight. (4) The same text turns up at sites with no connection to Qumran. - Masada, the desert fortress that fell to Rome in AD 73, produced fragments of seven biblical scrolls: Genesis, two of Leviticus, Deuteronomy, Ezekiel and two of Psalms. Different site, different people, no connection to the sect at Qumran. - They agree with the Masoretic text as well. So does the biblical material from the Bar Kokhba caves, the hiding places used in the Jewish revolt against Rome of AD 132 to 135, a good sixty years later still. Therefore, the text of the prophets reached the first century through hands that had no interest in making it fit Jesus, and left the first century in the keeping of people who deny that it does.

(C2) Therefore, the prophecies were written before the events and were not altered to fit them. + The words were fixed before the events, and the Hebrew was never in the keeping of anyone with a motive to adjust it toward Jesus. The first half of that rests on physical copies and on the latest composition dates any scholar defends. The second rests on sealed caves and on copyists who did not believe the conclusion. Between them they leave no moment at which a helpful hand could have gone to work. Copying by hand left its ordinary marks, of course. Spellings drift, an eye slips, an occasional different word turns up, and every bit of it is visible in the manuscripts and argued over in the technical literature. What is missing from that record is a passage that arrives late. The result is a modest one, and it is worth stating modestly. It does not show that any particular passage is a messianic prophecy. It does not show that Jesus fulfilled one. What it closes is the shortest road out of the whole subject, the one that says the predictions were written up afterward by people who already knew the ending. That road is closed by dated manuscripts rather than by any Christian reading of the texts, and it stays closed however the remaining questions come out. Every claim about what the prophets said has to stand on that ground before it can stand anywhere else. See also: • CE / Prophecy Fulfillment: Who Is the Servant of Isaiah 53? • CE / NT Criticism: Textual Transmission and Manuscript Evidence

On the Dead Sea Scrolls and the manuscript evidence: Benoit, Pierre, J. T. Milik, and Roland de Vaux. Les Grottes de Murabba'at. Discoveries in the Judaean Desert 2. Oxford: Clarendon Press, 1961. (The Minor Prophets scroll from Wadi Murabba'at.) Flint, Peter W. The Dead Sea Psalms Scrolls and the Book of Psalms. Leiden: Brill, 1997. Flint, Peter W., and James C. VanderKam, eds. The Dead Sea Scrolls after Fifty Years: A Comprehensive Assessment. 2 vols. Leiden: Brill, 1998-1999. Tov, Emanuel. Textual Criticism of the Hebrew Bible. 3rd ed., revised and expanded. Minneapolis: Fortress Press, 2012. Ulrich, Eugene. The Biblical Qumran Scrolls: Transcriptions and Textual Variants. Leiden: Brill, 2010. Ulrich, Eugene. "Daniel Manuscripts from Qumran. Part 1: A Preliminary Edition of 4QDana." Bulletin of the American Schools of Oriental Research 268 (1987). Ulrich, Eugene. "Daniel Manuscripts from Qumran. Part 2: Preliminary Editions of 4QDanb and 4QDanc." Bulletin of the American Schools of Oriental Research 274 (1989). Ulrich, Eugene. The Dead Sea Scrolls and the Origins of the Bible. Grand Rapids: Eerdmans, 1999. VanderKam, James C. The Dead Sea Scrolls Today. 2nd ed. Grand Rapids: Eerdmans, 2010. On the physical dating of the scrolls: Bonani, Georges, Susan Ivy, Willy Wolfli, Magen Broshi, Israel Carmi, and John Strugnell. "Radiocarbon Dating of Fourteen Dead Sea Scrolls." Radiocarbon 34, no. 3 (1992). Cross, Frank Moore. "The Development of the Jewish Scripts." In The Bible and the Ancient Near East, edited by G. Ernest Wright. Garden City, NY: Doubleday, 1961. (The standard palaeographic framework.) Doudna, Gregory. "Dating the Scrolls on the Basis of Radiocarbon Analysis." In The Dead Sea Scrolls after Fifty Years: A Comprehensive Assessment, vol. 1, edited by Peter W. Flint and James C. VanderKam. Leiden: Brill, 1998. (On sample contamination and the limits of individual results.) Jull, A. J. T., D. J. 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In Search of 'Ancient Israel': A Study in Biblical Origins. Sheffield: JSOT Press, 1992. (The minority school dating much of the Hebrew Bible to the Hellenistic period.) Duhm, Bernhard. Das Buch Jesaia. Handkommentar zum Alten Testament. Gottingen: Vandenhoeck & Ruprecht, 1892. (The commentary that set out the three-part division.) Goldingay, John. Daniel. Word Biblical Commentary 30. Dallas: Word Books, 1989. Oswalt, John N. The Book of Isaiah, Chapters 40-66. New International Commentary on the Old Testament. Grand Rapids: Eerdmans, 1998. Steinmann, Andrew E. Daniel. Concordia Commentary. St. Louis: Concordia, 2008. On the Hebrew of the contested verses: Oswalt, John N. The Book of Isaiah, Chapters 1-39. New International Commentary on the Old Testament. Grand Rapids: Eerdmans, 1986. Rydelnik, Michael. The Messianic Hope: Is the Hebrew Bible Really Messianic? NAC Studies in Bible and Theology. Nashville: B&H Academic, 2010. Wenham, Gordon J. "Betulah: A Girl of Marriageable Age." Vetus Testamentum 22, no. 3 (1972). On Jewish messianic expectation before Jesus: Collins, John J. The Scepter and the Star: Messianism in Light of the Dead Sea Scrolls. 2nd ed. Grand Rapids: Eerdmans, 2010. On the prophets and the charge of failed prophecy: Block, Daniel I. The Book of Ezekiel, Chapters 25-48. New International Commentary on the Old Testament. Grand Rapids: Eerdmans, 1998. On prophecy treated as evidence: Newman, Robert C. "Fulfilled Prophecy as Miracle." In In Defense of Miracles: A Comprehensive Case for God's Action in History, edited by R. Douglas Geivett and Gary R. Habermas. Downers Grove, IL: InterVarsity Press, 1997. Swinburne, Richard. The Concept of Miracle. London: Macmillan, 1970. Critic sources engaged: Carroll, Robert P. When Prophecy Failed: Reactions and Responses to Failure in the Old Testament Prophetic Traditions. London: SCM Press, 1979. Ehrman, Bart D. Misquoting Jesus: The Story Behind Who Changed the Bible and Why. New York: HarperSanFrancisco, 2005. Ancient sources: Arrian. Anabasis of Alexander, book 2. (The siege of Tyre and the causeway built from the ruins of the mainland city.) Ben Sira (Ecclesiasticus), translator's prologue, c. 132 BC. Josephus. Against Apion, book 1. (Phoenician records of Nebuchadnezzar's siege of Tyre.) Justin Martyr. Dialogue with Trypho, chapters 71-73, c. AD 160. Tacitus. Annals 15.44. (Christ executed under Pontius Pilate.) Biblical citations: Scripture quotations are from the English Standard Version (Crossway). Genesis 24:16; Deuteronomy 13:1-3; 18:15, 18, 21-22; Psalm 22:16-18; 96:10; Isaiah 7:14; 41:21-24; 46:9-10; 52:13-53:12; Ezekiel 26:3-12; 29:17-20; Daniel 9:24-27; 11:2-45; Joel 1:8; Micah 5:2; Zechariah 11:12-13; Romans 1:3; 1 Corinthians 15:3-4.
+ Isaiah 40 through 66 was written during or after the exile, and Daniel is a second-century work composed after the events it pretends to foretell. The traditional dates are gone, and the prophecy argument goes with them.
1. The critical dates are granted rather than fought. Isaiah divided at chapter 40 and dated to the exile, Daniel dated to about 165 BC: these are the standard positions in the critical commentaries. They are held by serious scholars for reasons that have nothing to do with anti-supernatural prejudice, and nothing about priority requires denying them. That concession is not a retreat. It is the strongest position available, because a case that survives its opponent's own dating cannot be defeated by winning the dating debate. 2. Later than tradition is not the same as later than Jesus. The objection slides quietly between two very different claims. One is that Isaiah 40 through 66 was written two centuries after the eighth-century prophet. The other is that it was written after the first century AD. The first is the scholarly position. The second is held by nobody at all, and the manuscripts rule it out anyway. Even on the tightest critical dating, the gap between composition and the events in question is about two hundred years for Daniel and about five hundred for Isaiah. 3. A late-dated Daniel does not empty the book of forward-looking material. Even on the Maccabean dating, the book contains statements about an anointed one being cut off and about the destruction of the city and the sanctuary. Critical commentators read those as the murder of the high priest Onias III in 171 BC and the desecration of the temple by Antiochus, events that on their view had already happened by the time the book was written. That is a serious reading held for serious reasons, not a dodge. Whether it holds is a question about the sequence in Daniel 9 rather than a question about dates, and it is settled on the text rather than on the calendar. What matters for priority is narrower and not in dispute: on the Maccabean dating the book was complete by about 165 BC, so everything in it was fixed nearly two centuries before the events Christians appeal to. 4. The manuscripts do not care how the composition debate ends. A copy of Isaiah made around 125 BC establishes that the text existed by 125 BC. No theory about who wrote it or when can touch that, because the copy is a physical object and the theories are inferences about a period the object already postdates.
+ Dating manuscripts by handwriting is guesswork. Palaeographers routinely disagree by a century or more, so "about 125 BC" is an estimate dressed up as a fact.
1. Palaeography gives ranges, not single years. Dating a manuscript by the shape of its letters is imprecise, and that should be conceded before anything else is said. When a scroll is dated to about 125 BC, the honest statement is that its script belongs to a phase of the Jewish book hand which specialists place in the second half of the second century BC, with a margin of some decades on either side. Anyone claiming better precision than that is overselling. 2. The scale is anchored to documents that carry their own dates. Palaeography is not a specialist squinting at letters and forming an impression. Scribal hands change over time in traceable ways, and the sequence is tied to documents whose dates are written on them: contracts, deeds, receipts, legal papyri from Egypt and the Judean desert. The undated manuscripts are then placed relative to the dated ones. It is the same kind of reasoning that lets you date an old photograph from the cars parked in the street behind the people. You are not guessing. You are reading a scale that somebody else built out of things that came with labels on them. The anchors are thicker in some periods than in others, and that should be said out loud. Dated Jewish documents survive in quantity from the first and second centuries AD and are much scarcer from the second century BC, which is the stretch that matters most for a scroll copied around 125 BC. That thinness is a real limit on the method, and it is exactly why a second clock is worth so much. 3. Radiocarbon dating shares none of palaeography's assumptions. In the 1990s two laboratories, at Zurich and at Tucson, radiocarbon-dated samples from the Judean desert manuscripts. The two studies were run separately, on partly different samples, and most of the results were consistent with the palaeographic estimates. A radiocarbon result is calibrated before anyone reports it, meaning checked against tree rings and other material whose age is already known, because the amount of that carbon in the air has not been constant. What comes out is not a single date but a calibrated range, a span of calendar years, and for the Great Isaiah Scroll that range fell in the last two centuries BC. 4. The results that disagreed are named rather than buried. Most of the results, note, and not all of them. A handful of samples came back at odds with the script dates, and individual results have to be handled carefully for a known reason: the first editors rubbed some scrolls with castor oil to make faded writing legible, and modern oil left in the fibres makes a measurement come out younger than the parchment really is. - So the two studies support the overall pattern rather than any single number. - The one contamination effect anyone has actually measured pushes corrected dates earlier rather than later, which is the direction that costs the objection. 5. Three papyri with their own dates on them were measured as controls. Alongside the undated scrolls, the Tucson study measured three papyri from the Judean desert that carry written dates, legal documents whose scribes recorded the year. Those are controls: the answer is known in advance, so the method can be marked against it. The measurements came back agreeing with the written dates to within the expected margin, running slightly young in the way the contamination problem would predict. Two methods that share no assumptions, pointing at the same period, with one of them graded against documents that could have failed it, is a much stronger result than either method alone. 6. The conclusion survives the worst case comfortably. Suppose the palaeographers are wrong by a full century, and wrong in the direction that would help the objection most. The Great Isaiah Scroll would then be a copy made around 25 BC, which is still before Jesus was born. The precision under attack is not precision the conclusion needs.
+ The scrolls prove that a text existed, not that anyone read it as a prophecy about a coming Messiah. Christians supplied that reading afterward.
1. Being early does not by itself make a text a prophecy. That much is correct. Priority establishes that the words were written down first. It does not establish what they were understood to mean, and treating the two as one claim would be exactly the sort of overreach this subject does not need. 2. But pre-Christian Jewish readers are not silent. The same caves produced texts showing what Jews expected before Christianity existed. - A fragment catalogued as 4Q521 speaks of heaven and earth obeying God's Messiah, and lists what God will do in those days. - Another, 4Q175, simply collects the passages the community was waiting on. - Others make a heavenly deliverer out of Melchizedek, the priest-king who appears for three verses in Genesis and is never explained. None of these were written by Christians, and none could have been touched by Christians afterward, for the same reason the biblical scrolls could not: they were copied before there was a church, and then buried in a cave. What those texts establish about Jewish expectation has to be argued from each of them in turn. What they rule out is the assumption sitting underneath the objection, which is that the pre-Christian record on this subject is blank. 3. The expectation on record is not simply the Christian one. That should be granted, because it is true. The hope visible in those texts is diverse and largely royal: a son of David who clears Jerusalem of the nations trampling it, and in some of the scrolls two anointed figures rather than one, a priest standing beside a king. A Messiah who suffers and dies is not what that community was waiting for. Which is exactly why the first Christians had to argue their reading of Isaiah 53 out of the text instead of assuming it, and why no date settles what those passages mean. It is also what makes the copies worth so much. A community waiting for a victorious king kept every line of the song about a servant who is despised, crushed, and buried in a rich man's grave. A witness who preserves what does not suit him is the witness you want. 4. Necessary conditions are worth establishing separately. An investigator who shows that a suspect was in the country on the day of the crime has not shown that he committed it. What he has done is remove the one fact that would have ended the inquiry on the spot. That is a real result, and it is the size of the result being claimed. See also: • CE / Prophecy Fulfillment: Who Is the Servant of Isaiah 53?
+ The Septuagint, the ancient Greek version of the Hebrew Scriptures, was copied and preserved by Christians, who had every reason to shape it. Appealing to the Greek text is appealing to the very people whose claim is in question.
1. The great Greek codices really are Christian productions. That should be granted plainly. The major surviving manuscripts of the Greek Old Testament, Vaticanus and Sinaiticus among them, are fourth-century Christian books. Where the question at issue is specifically whether Christian hands shaped a text, those manuscripts cannot settle it, and no honest case leans on them for that purpose. 2. The Hebrew lines never passed through Christian hands. The Hebrew of the Dead Sea Scrolls was copied before the church existed and was in the ground by about AD 68. The Masoretic tradition, the Hebrew text carried through the Middle Ages by Jewish scribes, was copied by people who did not accept the Christian reading. Neither line touched a Christian scriptorium at any point, and the messianic passages are present in both. 3. Pre-Christian copies of the Greek do survive. Three of them are worth naming. - Papyrus Rylands 458, a fragment of Deuteronomy from the second century BC, is the oldest. - Papyrus Fouad 266 preserves Deuteronomy from the first century BC. - The Greek scroll from Nahal Hever carries the Twelve, which is the twelve shorter prophetic books copied together, and belongs to the last century BC as well. These are Jewish copies of a Jewish translation, made before there was a Christian anywhere to influence them. 4. Where a Christian reading has been suspected, the tools to check it exist. This is not a matter of trust. The Hebrew, the pre-Christian Greek fragments, and the later Jewish revisions of the Greek made in the second century AD by Aquila, Symmachus and Theodotion can all be laid alongside each other and compared. Suspected Christian alterations are findable, and the ones that have been proposed are argued over openly in the technical literature rather than hidden.
+ Suppose every date is right. Prophecies are vague enough to fit almost anyone, so proving that a vague text is old proves nothing worth having.
1. Vagueness is a genuine problem for some prophetic claims. Pretending otherwise would be dishonest. Long lists of "fulfilled prophecies" circulate that consist mostly of general statements about suffering, rejection or vindication, and those would fit a great many people. Such lists do more harm than good, and a reader is right to be suspicious of them. 2. Some prophetic claims are not vague at all. A named village, a named sum of money, a specified order of events, and a method of execution not practiced in Israel when the words were written are not vague. Whether those particular claims hold up is a question about each text in turn, argued on the evidence for each, and the answer will not be the same for all of them. 3. Vagueness and dating are two different objections. The dating objection says the words came too late to count. The vagueness objection concedes that the words came early and says they do not say enough to count. Both deserve answers, and neither answer helps with the other. The order between them is not reversible, though. If the texts were written after the events, there is nothing to examine and no reason to examine it. Settling the dates is what makes the second conversation worth having at all.
+ Quoting Deuteronomy 18 as the test for prophecy is circular. You cannot use the Bible's own rule to validate the Bible.
1. The rule is not being used as evidence. A circular argument is one that quietly assumes the very thing it set out to prove, and this is not that. Deuteronomy 18 is quoted to say what kind of claim is on the table. Israel's Scriptures claim that God announces things in advance and that a prophet who misses is to be disregarded. Naming that claim accurately is not the same as assuming it is true, any more than quoting a company's published warranty assumes the product works. 2. The evidence for priority comes from outside the text entirely. Every piece of it can be checked by someone who regards Deuteronomy as fiction: - Manuscripts sealed in jars and dug out of a cave in 1947. - Radiocarbon measurements taken in two laboratories on two continents. - Palaeographic scales built out of dated contracts and deeds. - The copying habits of a community that rejects the Christian conclusion. None of that is derived from Scripture, and none of it would change if Deuteronomy 18 said something else. Throw the rule out altogether and the claim under test is untouched: specific statements were written before the events they describe, and anyone can hold that claim to that standard without holding any view of Deuteronomy at all. 3. A self-imposed standard that can convict is a risk, not a comfort. Deuteronomy's rule is dangerous to the text that contains it. It says that a prophecy which fails is proof the prophet was not sent. Books that wanted immunity from testing had other options available and did not take them. Think of a company that publishes its own quality standard and then fails to meet it. Having written the standard is no help at all. It is worse than no help, because now the failure is measured against a number the company chose for itself.
+ The oldest complete Hebrew Bible is medieval, from around AD 1000. Everything earlier is guesswork about a text that could have changed beyond recognition in the meantime.
1. Before 1947 that worry was entirely fair. The Aleppo Codex dates to about AD 930 and the Leningrad Codex to AD 1008. For centuries those were the earliest substantial Hebrew witnesses available, and the gap between them and the prophets was enormous. Scholars who worried about what happened in that gap were not being unreasonable. 2. The scrolls closed a thousand years of it in one decade. The Qumran discoveries pushed the Hebrew evidence back roughly a thousand years, which is the distance from the Norman Conquest to the present day. What they showed was not a text transformed but a text substantially recognizable: the same books, the same contents, in an older spelling and with the ordinary small variations of hand copying. 3. The agreement is close but not perfect. That is worth saying out loud rather than glossing over. The Great Isaiah Scroll differs from the medieval text in more than a thousand places. Most of those are spelling, a few are word order, and some are genuine variant readings that translators still weigh. What is absent is the thing the objection needs: a different book, a different message, or a chapter that was not there before. 4. The check does not rest on one cache of scrolls. The Masada fragments, from a fortress that fell in AD 73, and the biblical material from the Bar Kokhba caves sixty years after that, came out of different sites in different hands, and they agree closely with the medieval Hebrew text too. Three separate soundings into the same thousand-year gap, and all three come back the same. See also: • CE / NT Criticism: Textual Transmission and Manuscript Evidence
+ Qumran was a fringe sect with its own agenda. Their library tells us what one small group happened to own, not what the wider Jewish text looked like.
1. The community's own writings really do reflect one small group. The caution is fair. The community rule, the war scroll and the commentaries produced at Qumran were composed by a particular group with particular convictions, and nobody should read them as a snapshot of ordinary Judaism. 2. The biblical scrolls are a different kind of document. They are copies of books the whole nation held, not compositions of the sect, and they do not show a house edition. Several distinct textual traditions sit side by side among them: - One close to the later Masoretic text, the Hebrew standing behind an English Old Testament today. - One close to the Samaritan Pentateuch, the first five books of the Bible as the Samaritans preserved them. - One close to the Hebrew that stands behind the Greek translation. Specialists now argue about whether those three groupings are even the right way to sort the evidence, since a good many manuscripts fit none of them neatly. That dispute makes the point sharper rather than softer. A group editing Scripture to suit itself would leave one version behind. Qumran left an untidy library, which is the opposite of what tampering looks like. 3. Sites with no link to the sect produced the same books. Masada was held by Jewish rebels with no connection to Qumran, and it fell in AD 73. Its seven biblical scrolls agree closely with the medieval Hebrew text. The Bar Kokhba caves, from the revolt of AD 132 to 135, produced biblical texts that agree even more closely. 4. Priority does not need Qumran to be representative. It needs the text to have existed before the events. A fringe group's copy of Isaiah still proves that Isaiah existed, in the same way that an eccentric collector's 1920 newspaper still proves the newspaper was printed in 1920.
+ Textual criticism itself shows the Hebrew Bible was still fluid in this period. Saying "the text existed" glosses over the fact that there was no single fixed text to exist.
1. Specialists insist on the fluidity rather than concealing it. The objection comes out of textual criticism, the discipline that compares manuscripts in order to work out what a text originally said, and on the facts it is right. The scrolls show what scholars call textual plurality: more than one form of the same book circulating at the same time, sometimes with real differences between them. That was a genuine surprise in the field, and it changed how the history of the Hebrew Bible is written. 2. Jeremiah circulated in two different editions at once. The longer edition is close to the medieval Hebrew that stands behind an English Old Testament today, and the shorter one is close to the Hebrew behind the Greek translation. A fragmentary manuscript from Cave 4 preserves the shorter form. Jeremiah is not the only case, either: some psalms appear in different arrangements. These are not small matters and they should not be minimized. 3. Fluidity at that level is not fluidity about whether the passages were there. The variation concerns the length of an edition, the order of material, spelling, and individual words. It does not concern whether Isaiah 53 was in Isaiah, or whether Micah mentioned Bethlehem. The messianic passages are present in every tradition that preserves the relevant books. 4. The visibility of the variants is what makes the agreement mean anything. A tradition that had hidden its seams would deserve more suspicion, not less. The reason anyone can describe the fluidity in this much detail is that the evidence for it was preserved and published rather than tidied away.
+ Even with the dates settled, Jesus could have read the prophecies and arranged to fulfill them, or the Gospel writers could have written the story to fit what they found in Isaiah.
1. Dating cannot answer this objection. It is a different objection, and a better one. No amount of manuscript evidence will settle it. Establishing that the words came first is precisely what makes it the next question rather than the first one. 2. Settling the dates changes the shape of the question. Once the texts are fixed and public, the charge becomes checkable rather than open-ended. We know what was available to be read, in what form, and by whom. An accusation of retrofitting then has to work with a known set of words instead of an imagined one. 3. Some items were outside anyone's control. A man can arrange to ride a donkey into Jerusalem. He cannot arrange where he is born, which family he is born into, what century he lives in, what price his opponents agree on, what method of execution a Roman governor uses, or whether soldiers gamble for his clothing. Those are decisions made by other people, several of them by people trying to kill him. 4. The list meets the staging charge, not the composition charge. Most of those details reach us through the Gospels. So the list answers the accusation that Jesus staged his own fulfillments, and it does nothing at all about the different accusation, that his reporters composed them. Not everything on it comes to us that way, though. - Tacitus, a Roman senator with no interest in helping Christians, reports that Christ was executed under Pontius Pilate. - Paul, writing in the fifties and before any Gospel on the usual datings, already calls him a descendant of David who was crucified and buried. The composition charge is a question about the Gospels rather than about the prophets, and it has to be answered as one. 5. The composition charge is answerable text by text. Where a Gospel writer is accused of building a scene out of a prophecy, the answer has to come from that scene and that prophecy: what the passage actually says, what the narrative actually reports, and whether the details line up in ways an author would have had no reason to invent. See also: • CE / Prophecy Fulfillment: Who Is the Servant of Isaiah 53? • CE / NT Criticism: Early Dating and Eyewitness Proximity of the New Testament
+ No scholar anywhere dates Isaiah or Daniel to the Christian era, so all this establishes is something nobody contests. Refuting a position no expert holds is not an argument.
1. Among specialists the point really is uncontested. That should be said first and without hedging. No published critical scholar puts any part of Isaiah, Daniel, Micah, Zechariah or the Psalms in the Christian era. The latest date on offer for Daniel is about 165 BC, and it comes from the standard critical commentary rather than from any friend of the argument. None of this is news to anyone who works on these books. 2. The claim is not uncontested where readers actually meet it. "They wrote it afterwards" is the first thing said in most ordinary conversations about fulfilled prophecy, and it is usually said in good faith by people who have never been told what the manuscript evidence is. A foundation that experts take for granted still has to be laid for the person standing on it, because everything built on top of it is worthless if it turns out to be missing. 3. Stipulated facts are not wasted facts. Think of a defense lawyer who agrees the time of death instead of fighting it. He has not wasted the court's time. He has fixed the one point that makes the rest of the evidence usable, and the case can now turn on where his client was at that hour. A conceded premise is also the best kind of premise to have. A link in a deductive chain has to be more plausible than its denial, and a link the other side is not even pulling on has cleared that bar with room to spare. (P2a) and (P2b) are the safest links here for exactly that reason. 4. The editing half of the charge is genuinely disputed. That the Hebrew text was adjusted after the fact, in one direction or the other, is claimed in live argument between Christians, Jews and Muslims, and it cannot be settled by anybody's assurance. Manuscripts settle it, which is why (P3) is doing work that (P2a) and (P2b) do not. 5. After-the-fact prophecy is a real category. Critical scholarship reads the long historical survey in Daniel 11 as exactly that: a detailed account of Seleucid history written in the voice of prediction after the events had happened. There is a name for the technique, vaticinium ex eventu, Latin for a prophecy made from the outcome, and a reader will meet it in any commentary on the chapter. Accept that reading of Daniel 11 or set it aside; the lesson for method is the same either way. Writing history as prophecy is something ancient authors are known to have done, so the charge is never absurd on its face, and nothing but evidence about dates answers it.
+ Run Deuteronomy's test on the prophets themselves and they fail it. Ezekiel announced that Nebuchadnezzar would destroy Tyre, then wrote later that the king got nothing at all for the effort.
1. A test that can only ever confirm is not a test. Quoting a falsification standard and then declining to be falsified by it gives away the only thing that made the standard worth quoting. The objection is asking the right question, in the right way, and the honest response is to answer it on the text rather than change the subject. 2. Ezekiel's own book records that the siege of Tyre paid nothing. Ezekiel 26 announces judgment on Tyre and names Nebuchadnezzar, who comes from the north with horses and chariots and siege works. Ezekiel 29:17-20, the latest dated oracle in the book, says that he and his army had worked hard against Tyre and got no wages for it, and that Egypt is to be handed over instead. A prophetic book that keeps both passages is preserving its own unpaid invoice. Nobody manufactured this difficulty. The prophet's own editors left it lying in the open, and that is worth noticing before the answer even begins. A tradition that files the disappointing sequel right next to the oracle is not a tradition that quietly rewrites predictions to fit. 3. The published answer turns on who "they" is. It is an argued answer rather than an obvious one, and it starts from how the chapter is built. The oracle opens by saying that many nations will come up against Tyre, wave after wave. The named king is the first wave. The demolition described a few verses later, stones and timber and rubble pushed out into the water, is done by a plural "they" rather than by him. - Nebuchadnezzar besieged the mainland city for thirteen years, on the Phoenician records Josephus quotes, and the oracle had said the settlements on the mainland would fall to the sword. - Alexander took the island in 332 BC by scraping the ruins of the old city into the sea to build a causeway out to it, which is the picture in the chapter down to the stones and timber in the water. - Critics call the pronoun shift convenient, and that is a fair thing to say about any reading offered after the event. - What makes this one different is that the plural was already there. It is printed in the Hebrew, carried by the ancient versions, and visible in whatever English Bible is on the shelf, and it sat there long before anybody needed it. Read the chapter and weigh it rather than taking either side's summary. 4. Priority does not rest on Deuteronomy's rule. What is being tested is whether specific texts were fixed before specific events. Manuscripts and dates answer that, and they answer it the same way whatever anyone concludes about Tyre.
+ Hostile custody cuts both ways. The Jewish scribes who fixed the Hebrew text did it while arguing with Christians about these very passages, and early Christian writers accused them of deleting prophecies.
1. The scribes preserved the text faithfully. The objection offers two options, and in logic those are called the horns of a dilemma: whichever one you grab, you are supposed to be gored. Either the custodians preserved the text faithfully, in which case Christians must live with whatever it says, or they did not, in which case hostile custody proves nothing. Take the first horn, then. Which of the two is actually true gets decided by the manuscripts rather than by anyone's preference, and the manuscripts point that way. It costs something real to say so. The Christian reading has to be argued out of a Hebrew text that was never shaped to produce it. 2. Isaiah 7:14 is the case that shows the cost. The Hebrew word there is 'almah, a young woman of marriageable age, and it does not by itself specify virginity. The Great Isaiah Scroll, copied before Christianity existed, reads 'almah as well. So the reading Christians have to work with is not a late Jewish adjustment. It is what the oldest Hebrew copy in the world says. The usual next step is to say that Isaiah would have written betulah, the other Hebrew word and the one ordinarily translated "virgin," if a virgin is what he meant. That does not survive a look at how betulah actually behaves. - Joel pictures a betulah in mourning for the man of her youth, using the ordinary Hebrew word for a husband (Joel 1:8). - Genesis, wanting to leave no doubt about Rebekah, calls her a betulah and then adds that no man had known her (Genesis 24:16). The addition would be pointless if the word had settled it. - No occurrence of 'almah in the Hebrew Bible clearly refers to a married woman either. - The pre-Christian Jewish translators who put Isaiah into Greek reached for a word that normally does carry the narrower sense. Neither word, in other words, was the clean technical term the objection assumes. So the case has to be made from the passage and from the sign Isaiah says he is giving, not from the lexicon alone. What it does not have to survive is a charge of tampering, because the awkward word is the pre-Christian one. 3. The accusation has run in the other direction too. Justin Martyr, writing around AD 160, charged Jewish teachers with cutting passages out of Scripture. His clearest example, a line in Psalm 96 about God reigning "from the tree," appears in no Hebrew manuscript at all and is now generally taken as a Christian addition to the Greek rather than a Jewish deletion. An old and heated charge is not evidence, whichever side is making it. 4. The suspicious period is bracketed at both ends. The Hebrew text was standardized mostly in the century or two after AD 70, which is precisely the window the objection points at, and that window can be checked from outside on both sides. - The pre-Christian Hebrew from the caves lies before it. - The fragments from Masada in AD 73 and from the Bar Kokhba caves of AD 132 to 135 lie inside its early years. - The medieval Hebrew lies after it. The messianic passages stand in the copies on either side, and where those copies differ the difference is small, catalogued and open to anyone. Psalm 22:16 is the famous instance. The medieval Hebrew has a phrase usually rendered "like a lion," while the pre-Christian Greek translators read a verb meaning to dig or bore through, and a first-century Jewish copy from Nahal Hever writes the word with a final waw where the medieval text has a yod, two Hebrew letters almost identical in that script. Specialists argue it out in the journals. A dispute anyone can look up is the opposite of a text quietly fixed by either side.
+ The scrolls are mostly fragments, and for many of the verses at issue no pre-Christian manuscript physically preserves the words. Appealing to "the scrolls" leans on scraps that do not contain the passages in question.
1. The state of the evidence is exactly as described. Outside Isaiah, most of the biblical manuscripts from the caves are pieces: a column here, a few lines there, edges eaten away by two thousand years in a jar. For particular verses there is no surviving pre-Christian copy that physically carries the words, and saying otherwise would misdescribe what the photographic plates show. 2. The one book that survives complete is Isaiah. The Great Isaiah Scroll is not a fragment. It is the whole book, and it carries both Isaiah 7:14 and the entire song from 52:13 to 53:12. That song is where most of the argument about a suffering servant is actually conducted, and it is the passage the case leans on hardest. 3. A manuscript dates a book, not only the scrap that survives. A copy of the Twelve from about 150 BC establishes that the collection existed then, in the form its copyist was reproducing. To say that one verse inside it was slipped in later is a further historical claim carrying its own burden, and it needs its own evidence: a manuscript without the verse, a citation that shows it missing, a seam in the language. For the messianic passages nobody has produced any of the three. Think of a printed atlas from 1890 with one page torn out. The tear does not put the missing county in doubt. It puts that county beyond the reach of this particular copy, and you go and look at another one. 4. Other lines cover what the caves do not. - The prophets existed in Greek before 130 BC, on the passing testimony of a translator with nothing at stake, and translating a collection means translating the whole of it rather than a selection from it. - A scroll from Wadi Murabba'at, written by Jews around the time of the Bar Kokhba revolt, preserves long stretches of the Twelve, Micah among them, and it matches the medieval Hebrew almost letter for letter. So even where the caves leave a gap, the stretch of time in which a verse could have been slipped in is short and watched at both ends. - Where a pre-Christian Hebrew copy of a passage does survive, it agrees closely with the medieval Hebrew. That is the reason to expect the same where it does not survive, and it is an expectation any new find can test.

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