(P1)A Child Called Mighty God: Isaiah names a son born on David's throne with a title he uses of God himself one chapter later.
+The charge is that Christians took a human Jewish hope and made it divine after the fact. Five texts answer that charge, not one of them carrying the case alone, and the first of the five was written seven centuries before there was a Christian alive to write anything.
(1) One of the child's four names is the problem.
- "For to us a child is born, to us a son is given; and the government shall be upon his shoulder, and his name shall be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace." (Isaiah 9:6)
- Three of those four are the sort of thing a court poet might say about any promising prince. A king can be called Wonderful Counselor, or Everlasting Father, or Prince of Peace, and nobody in the room blinks. The second name is different. The Hebrew behind it is 'el gibbor.
• 'El is the ordinary Hebrew word for God, or for a god. Gibbor means mighty, and it is the word Hebrew reaches for when it describes a warrior or a champion. Put the two together and you have Mighty God.
(2) Isaiah uses that exact phrase of God one chapter later.
- "A remnant will return, the remnant of Jacob, to the mighty God." (Isaiah 10:21) The same two words. The same book, the same writer, and this time the one being described is the God of Israel.
- Nobody has to take a Christian's word for how Isaiah uses his own vocabulary. Thirty-six verses separate the two lines, and any English Bible on a shelf will show them.
- Think of a small firm where one nickname belongs to the founder and to nobody else, ever. If a memo the following week handed that nickname to somebody new, you would stop and read it twice, whatever you decided in the end that it meant.
(3) The reign attached to the child does not end.
- "Of the increase of his government and of peace there will be no end, on the throne of David and over his kingdom, to establish it and to uphold it with justice and with righteousness from this time forth and forevermore." (Isaiah 9:7)
- Kings die, and when they die their reigns end. This one is given no end at either edge of the sentence, and it is set on a particular throne belonging to a particular family.
(4) The date is not in dispute in any way that matters.
- Isaiah 9 belongs to the eighth century BC on the traditional reckoning. Many scholars hold instead that the book was assembled out of the work of more than one prophet writing across two centuries, with the later material starting somewhere around chapter 40. On that view these early chapters usually sit in the oldest layer. A minority put this particular oracle later still, in the reign of Josiah or after the exile.
- Not one of those options helps the charge. The Great Isaiah Scroll, the complete book found in the caves above the Dead Sea and copied about 125 BC, carries the verse, and 125 BC is more than a century before Jesus was born. Whoever wrote the words, they were in Jewish hands long before they were useful to anybody.
Therefore, one of Israel's prophets gave a son of David a title he gives elsewhere to God.
(P2)A King Named with the Divine Name: Jeremiah's promised Branch is called by the covenant name of God.
+A century after Isaiah, in a different prophet with a different vocabulary, the same strange thing happens to a promised king.
(1) Jeremiah's Branch is a flesh-and-blood king.
- "Behold, the days are coming, declares the Lord, when I will raise up for David a righteous Branch, and he shall reign as king and deal wisely, and shall execute justice and righteousness in the land." (Jeremiah 23:5)
• Branch is a picture rather than a name: a green shoot coming up out of an old stump. Jeremiah has just finished condemning the last kings of Judah, and the shoot is what grows after them.
- Raised up for David, reigning, dealing wisely, executing justice. That is a royal figure in a royal line, doing a king's work, and nothing in the verse hints at anything else.
(2) The name he is given contains the name of God.
- "In his days Judah will be saved, and Israel will dwell securely. And this is the name by which he will be called: The Lord is our righteousness." (Jeremiah 23:6)
- Where English Bibles print "the LORD" in small capitals, they are standing in for four Hebrew letters, usually written YHWH in English. That is God's own covenant name, the one given to Moses at the burning bush, and Jews came in time to treat it as too holy to say out loud.
- Now, a king in Israel could be named for God's action easily enough. Hezekiah's name means the Lord strengthens, and nobody in Jerusalem thought Hezekiah was God. What is unusual here is not the piety of the name but which name it is.
(3) Ten chapters later, Jeremiah gives almost the same name to the city.
- "And this is the name by which it will be called: The Lord is our righteousness." (Jeremiah 33:16) The one being named there is Jerusalem, not a king.
- That costs this strand something real, and it is better said out loud than left for a critic to find. If a city can carry the name, then carrying the name is not by itself proof that the one carrying it is divine. A reader who noticed that on his own was reading well.
- What survives is narrower than it first looked. In one prophet, a coming son of David is handed a name built out of the covenant name, and the vocabulary of Israel's own worship is spent on him.
Therefore, a second prophet gives the promised king a title built out of the divine name.
(P3)A Ruler Whose Coming Forth Is From Ancient Days: Micah names the birthplace and then says the one born there came forth long before.
+This is the lightest of the five strands. It adds something to the others rather than carrying anything on its own.
(1) The verse names a village and then says something odd about the man from it.
- "But you, O Bethlehem Ephrathah, who are too little to be among the clans of Judah, from you shall come forth for me one who is to be ruler in Israel, whose coming forth is from of old, from ancient days." (Micah 5:2)
- The first half is a birthplace prediction, checkable and famous. The second half is about the same person, and what it does is describe his origin as reaching backwards.
(2) The honest reading of "from ancient days" is contested.
- The Hebrew word behind "ancient days" is olam, which covers any stretch of time whose far end nobody can see. It does duty in these Scriptures for the everlasting hills and for the everlasting God alike.
- So the phrase can mean an ancient lineage. That is what a critic will say, and it is what many careful readers hold: the ruler comes out of an old family, David's, going back to the Bethlehem where David had kept sheep.
- It can also carry the sense of an origin outside ordinary time, so that the one who comes out of Bethlehem had already come forth long before he was born there.
- Both readings fit the Hebrew, and there is no getting round that. A family tree can be ancient without its newest member being ancient, and pretending the verse settles the question would be dishonest.
(3) The value of this verse is what it adds to the other four.
- By itself it proves nothing about the ruler being divine, and nothing anywhere else depends on it.
- Taken with the rest, it is one more text where a human ruler is described in language larger than a human ruler needs.
- One odd phrase in one prophet is a curiosity, and a fair reader should treat it as one. Five of them, in five different books written across more than five hundred years, is a pattern that wants explaining.
Therefore, Micah's ruler is described in terms that stretch past an ordinary birth, on a reading many but not all hold.
(P4)A Man on the Clouds Receiving the Service of Nations: Daniel sees a figure in human form travel as God travels and receive what nations render to a god.
+Daniel's vision is the strongest of the five, and it has the cleanest date: even the latest scholarly dating puts it about two centuries before the first Christian wrote a word.
(1) The scene is a throne room with God already seated in it.
- "As I looked, thrones were placed, and the Ancient of Days took his seat; his clothing was white as snow, and the hair of his head like pure wool; his throne was fiery flames; its wheels were burning fire." (Daniel 7:9) The Ancient of Days is Daniel's name for God.
- Then a second figure arrives. "I saw in the night visions, and behold, with the clouds of heaven there came one like a son of man, and he came to the Ancient of Days and was presented before him." (Daniel 7:13)
• "Son of man" ordinarily means nothing grander than a human being, in Hebrew and in Aramaic alike. God addresses the prophet Ezekiel that way ninety times over, and it amounts to "mortal". The phrase is here to say that the figure looks like a man.
• Daniel 2 through 7 is written in Aramaic rather than Hebrew, Aramaic being the everyday language across the Near East in that period.
(2) He arrives the way God arrives.
- Cloud-riding in the Hebrew Bible is God's own mode of travel, and it is not shared out. "he makes the clouds his chariot" (Psalm 104:3). "Behold, the Lord is riding on a swift cloud and comes to Egypt" (Isaiah 19:1). "There is none like God, O Jeshurun, who rides through the heavens to your help" (Deuteronomy 33:26).
• Jeshurun is a poetic pet name for Israel, the way an old song might call a country by a name nobody uses in the newspaper.
- No prophet travels that way. No king, no angel, nowhere in the Hebrew Bible. The nearest thing to an exception is the king of Babylon boasting that he will climb above the clouds and make himself like the Most High, which Isaiah reports as the sentence that damns him (Isaiah 14:14).
- One like a man does travel that way, once, in Daniel 7.
(3) The nations serve him with Daniel's word for religious service.
- "And to him was given dominion and glory and a kingdom, that all peoples, nations, and languages should serve him; his dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away." (Daniel 7:14)
- The Aramaic verb behind "serve" is pelach, and Daniel uses it for the service owed to a god. It is what Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego refuse the golden statue, "they do not serve your gods or worship the golden image" (Daniel 3:12), and it is what Daniel gives God continually, in the mouth of the king who is lowering him into the lions' den: "May your God, whom you serve continually, deliver you!" (Daniel 6:16)
- Aramaic in general lets the word cover ordinary service, and one verse near the end of this same chapter is genuinely disputed (D4). What can be said flatly is narrower and still worth having: every clear use in Daniel is service rendered to a god.
(4) The vision names its own symbols as individuals.
- Four beasts come up before this, and when Daniel asks what they are the angel answers flatly: "These four great beasts are four kings who shall arise out of the earth." (Daniel 7:17) Not four abstractions. Four rulers.
- Six verses later the same vision calls the fourth beast a kingdom instead (Daniel 7:23), sliding between a ruler and the kingdom he heads without embarrassment. So verse 17 cannot prove that the figure who arrives after the beasts is one person.
- What it does show is more modest. Reading a symbol here as an individual ruler is the vision's own habit rather than a category later readers brought to it, and four kings have just filled four slots. When the fifth opens and the everlasting kingdom changes hands, a fifth ruler is what you expect to find standing in it, the way a list of four named heirs leaves you looking for a fifth name.
- Against that, the kingdom goes in verse 18 to "the saints of the Most High," and the leading academic reading takes the figure for an angel standing in for Israel. Both are genuine difficulties rather than quibbles (D3, D17).
Therefore, Daniel's throne room contains a figure in human form who travels as God travels and receives what this book reserves for a god.
(P5)A Priest at God's Right Hand: A psalm seats a second lord beside God and swears him into an office no king of Israel could hold.
+Inside four verses, Psalm 110 hands one man two things no king of Israel could have: a seat at God's right hand, and a priesthood.
(1) David's own lord is invited to sit at God's right hand.
- "The Lord says to my Lord: Sit at my right hand, until I make your enemies your footstool." (Psalm 110:1)
- Two different Hebrew words stand behind those two Lords, and English Bibles mark the difference by printing the first in small capitals. The first is God's covenant name. The second is adoni, the ordinary word a servant uses of the man he works for, the word a steward would use of the master of the house. So the psalm's speaker is calling somebody his lord who is not God, and God is speaking to that person.
- Jesus put that puzzle to his questioners in the temple, as a riddle rather than a claim about himself: "David himself calls him Lord. So how is he his son?" (Mark 12:37)
(2) Three verses later the same figure is made a priest.
- "The Lord has sworn and will not change his mind, You are a priest forever after the order of Melchizedek." (Psalm 110:4)
• Melchizedek gets three verses in Genesis and no explanation. He is king of Salem and priest of God Most High, he brings out bread and wine for Abraham and blesses him, and then he is gone (Genesis 14:18-20). A priesthood "after his order" is one that does not run through Aaron's family at all.
- Israel kept king and priest strictly apart, and the separation was enforced. King Uzziah walked into the temple to burn incense, the priests told him "It is not for you, Uzziah, to burn incense to the Lord, but for the priests, the sons of Aaron" (2 Chronicles 26:18), and he came out a leper.
- Israel's own record tells that story about one of its more successful kings and softens not a word of it. This was not a rule anybody treated as flexible. The psalm fuses the two offices in one man anyway, and swears God to it.
(3) A first-century scene puts this psalm and Daniel's vision in one sentence.
- Asked whether he is the Messiah, Jesus answers by joining the two: "you will see the Son of Man seated at the right hand of Power, and coming with the clouds of heaven." (Mark 14:62)
• Messiah is an office rather than a name. The Hebrew word means "anointed one", a man installed in his post by having oil poured over his head, and the Greek for it is Christos, which English shortens to "Christ".
- The high priest tears his clothes and calls it blasphemy (Mark 14:63-64). Those men had spent their lives inside these Scriptures, and what they heard in the pairing was a claim about more than a king. Their reaction is evidence about the texts and not only about Jesus, because nobody tears his robes over a man claiming to be a successful general.
- The scene comes from a Christian source and its details are disputed (D18). Nothing in this strand needs it. The psalm says what it says in Hebrew, centuries earlier, whoever quoted it and whatever happened that night.
Therefore, a psalm in Israel's own hymnbook seats a second lord beside God and gives him a priesthood no king could hold.
(C1)Therefore, Israel's Scriptures already describe a coming deliverer in more-than-human terms.
+Put the five together and Israel's own Scriptures, long before there was a church to read them, already hold a coming deliverer described in terms too large for a man. Not one of the five gets there alone, and not one of them has to. A cumulative case works like a rope rather than a chain. A chain fails at its weakest link, so a critic need only find the weak link and break it. A rope holds when a strand frays, because the strands do not depend on one another. A jury works the same way: a fingerprint, a receipt, a witness and a motive, none of them conclusive alone, all of them pointing one direction.
(1) Five texts in five books, written across more than five hundred years.
- A divine title given to a son of David (P1), which turns on Isaiah's own vocabulary.
- The covenant name inside a king's title (P2), which turns on Jeremiah's.
- An origin reaching back before a birth (P3), which turns on one contested Hebrew phrase.
- A figure in human form travelling as God travels and receiving a god's service (P4), which turns on Daniel's Aramaic and on the way the vision handles its own imagery.
- A second lord enthroned and made a priest (P5), which turns on two verses of a psalm and on a rule enforced against a king.
- Break any one of them and the rest stand exactly where they were. That is what makes this a rope.
(2) Two of the five are less independent than the count suggests.
- A divine element inside a royal name is what carries both (P1) and (P2), so a naming convention that explains the one goes some way toward explaining the other. On a strict count the pair sits nearer a strand and a half than two.
- The discount is partial rather than total, because the two names are not the same kind of name. Jeremiah's is a sentence about God, which is the ordinary Israelite pattern. Isaiah's is a two-word title, and he hands that same title to God himself one chapter later (D1).
- The trial scene is one fact and not two. It shows Daniel's vision and the psalm being read together in the first century, which bears on (P4) and (P5) at once, so it is worth counting once and no more. Two people who got the story from the same phone call are closer to one witness than to two, and honest counting should say so out loud.
- The other three never touch each other at any point. Isaiah's vocabulary, Micah's contested phrase and Daniel's Aramaic can each fail on its own terms without moving the others an inch.
(3) The five strands are not equally strong.
- Strongest is (P4). It has the cleanest date, the most detail, and its central features survive on every reading of who the figure is (D17).
- Next is (P5), because the fusion of priest and king can be measured against a rule Israel actually enforced, and enforced against a king.
- Weakest are (P3), which rests on a phrase that can honestly be read the ordinary way, and (P2), which has to live with a city carrying almost the same name.
(4) What follows and what does not.
- What follows is that the raw material for a more-than-human deliverer was sitting in Israel's Scriptures before the church existed. Anyone claiming Christians manufactured it has to account for these five texts, in Hebrew and Aramaic, in manuscripts older than Christianity.
- What does not follow is that Jesus of Nazareth is that figure. That is a separate argument resting on separate evidence.
- Nor does it follow that any Jewish reader was obliged to put these five together. Reading them as one figure is a judgment, and serious readers have declined to make it for two thousand years.
(P6)The Reading Was Live Inside Judaism: Rabbinic tradition legislates against a reading of these texts that it calls "two powers in heaven."
+The last strand is not a prophecy at all. It is evidence about who was reading these texts this way, and when.
(1) Rabbinic literature legislates against a heresy of two powers.
- Rabbinic literature is the writing of the rabbis, the Jewish teachers whose rulings and debates were gathered from about AD 200 onward into the Mishnah, the Talmud and the running commentaries called midrash.
- Those texts rebuke, again and again, anyone who says there are "two powers in heaven." One of the verses they quarrel over is one of the five: the plural thrones of Daniel 7:9 (P4).
- The Talmud even preserves the exchange. A rabbi explains the second throne as the Messiah's, and a colleague tells him to stop profaning God's presence and to read the two thrones as justice and mercy instead (Hagigah 14a).
- Communities do not build fences around positions nobody occupies. A town does not post a sign forbidding swimming at a pond where nobody swims, and a ruling against a reading is evidence that the reading was in the room.
(2) This is hostile evidence.
- These are Jewish texts, preserved by Jewish scribes, written to shut a door. They were not composed to help anybody's case, and least of all this one.
- That is exactly what makes them useful. Hostile evidence, meaning evidence kept by people who would dislike the use it is being put to, is the best kind there is, because nobody can accuse it of having been produced for the purpose.
(3) The rabbinic material cannot show what anyone believed before Jesus.
- It is later than the New Testament. What it shows is that Jews were reading these texts this way within the period when the ruling was made, and it does not show a day more.
- Who the "two powers" readers were is disputed among scholars. Some were Christians, some were probably not, and the sources do not always let us tell.
- Pre-Christian Jewish texts describing exalted heavenly figures do exist. One of the Dead Sea Scrolls, copied before Jesus was born, casts Melchizedek as a heavenly deliverer in words normally kept for God. That evidence is real, and none of these five strands depends on it.
Therefore, reading these texts as pointing past a human king is a Jewish reading before it is a Christian one.
(C2)Therefore, the materials for a more-than-human Messiah are Jewish in origin, not imported.
+The charge is one of manufacture: that a human Jewish hope was taken over and inflated by Gentile converts a century or two later. The texts are in the wrong language and the wrong century for that story.
(1) Every piece was fixed in Jewish hands before there was a church.
- Isaiah, Jeremiah and Micah are Hebrew prophets of the eighth and seventh centuries BC on the traditional dating, and the later dates some scholars propose still put them centuries before the New Testament (P1, P2, P3).
- Daniel 7 is Aramaic, and even the latest scholarly dating puts it two centuries before the earliest Christian writing (P4).
- Psalm 110 is in Israel's hymnbook, in Hebrew, long before anybody in Jerusalem had heard of Nazareth (P5).
- The two-powers rulings are rabbinic, not Christian, and they are aimed at readers of one of these same verses (P6).
(2) What the texts earn.
- They earn that the categories existed inside Judaism, in Jewish texts, in Jewish hands.
- They do not earn that any Jew before Jesus had joined these five texts into one figure. The material is Jewish beyond argument. Who first gathered it up is a separate question, and the evidence for that is thinner than the evidence for the material (P6).
- They do not earn that this way of reading the texts was the majority view, and it was not. The expectation running strongest was royal and national: a son of David on a throne, with the occupying army gone.
- They do not earn anything at all about Jesus. Whether he fits these texts is a question about him, argued from the Gospels and from history rather than from Isaiah's vocabulary.
(3) What would defeat this.
- Showing that 'el gibbor at Isaiah 9:6 does not mean what it means at Isaiah 10:21 would take (P1) apart.
- Showing that cloud-riding is used of an ordinary man somewhere else in the Hebrew Bible would take a leg from (P4). Nobody has produced such a passage.
- Showing that the two-powers rulings are aimed only at Gentile Christians would take (P6) down to nothing. The sources are disputed enough that a reader should hold this strand loosely.
- What would not defeat it is the fact that most Jewish readers have not read the texts this way. That is a separate question with its own answer.
See also:
• CE / Prophecy Fulfillment: Was Israel Already Waiting for a Messiah?• CE / Prophecy Fulfillment: If the Prophecies Were Clear, Why Didn't More of Israel Accept Them?
On the divine figure in Israel's Scriptures:
Bauckham, Richard. Jesus and the God of Israel: God Crucified and Other Studies on the New Testament's Christology of Divine Identity. Grand Rapids: Eerdmans, 2008.
Hurtado, Larry W. One God, One Lord: Early Christian Devotion and Ancient Jewish Monotheism. 3rd ed. London: Bloomsbury T&T Clark, 2015.
Oswalt, John N. The Book of Isaiah, Chapters 1-39. New International Commentary on the Old Testament. Grand Rapids: Eerdmans, 1986.
On Daniel 7, Psalm 110, and the son of man:
Bock, Darrell L. Blasphemy and Exaltation in Judaism: The Charge against Jesus in Mark 14:53-65. Grand Rapids: Baker Academic, 2000. (On how widely the charge of blasphemy was used in Jewish sources of the period, and on the pairing of Psalm 110:1 with Daniel 7:13.)
Collins, John J. Daniel. Hermeneia. Minneapolis: Fortress Press, 1993. (The standard academic commentary, which reads the figure as an angel standing in for Israel.)
Collins, John J. The Scepter and the Star: Messianism in Light of the Dead Sea Scrolls. 2nd ed. Grand Rapids: Eerdmans, 2010. (On the first-century Jewish reading of Daniel's son of man as a heavenly Messiah.)
Emerton, J. A. "The Origin of the Son of Man Imagery." Journal of Theological Studies 9 (1958): 225-42. (On cloud imagery as theophany, and Daniel 7:13 as the one apparent exception.)
Goldingay, John. Daniel. Word Biblical Commentary 30. Dallas: Word Books, 1989.
Hay, David M. Glory at the Right Hand: Psalm 110 in Early Christianity. Nashville: Abingdon Press, 1973.
Hengel, Martin. Studies in Early Christology. Edinburgh: T&T Clark, 1995. (Includes the study of Psalm 110:1 in earliest Christianity.)
Pitre, Brant. The Case for Jesus: The Biblical and Historical Evidence for Christ. New York: Image, 2016. (On Daniel 7's own key at 7:17, and on the son of man as the ruler of the fifth kingdom.)
On two powers and the shape of Jewish belief in one God:
Boyarin, Daniel. The Jewish Gospels: The Story of the Jewish Christ. New York: New Press, 2012. (Argues that a second divine figure alongside God is a native Jewish idea rather than an imported one.)
Segal, Alan F. Two Powers in Heaven: Early Rabbinic Reports about Christianity and Gnosticism. Leiden: Brill, 1977.
Critic sources engaged:
Casey, Maurice. The Solution to the 'Son of Man' Problem. Library of New Testament Studies 343. London: T&T Clark, 2007.
Ehrman, Bart D. How Jesus Became God: The Exaltation of a Jewish Preacher from Galilee. New York: HarperOne, 2014.
Singer, Tovia. Let's Get Biblical! Why Doesn't Judaism Accept the Christian Messiah? 2nd ed. Forest Hills, NY: RNBN Publishers, 2014.
Ancient sources:
1 Enoch 37-71 (the Book of Parables), most often dated around the turn of the era.
4 Ezra 13, a Jewish apocalypse of about AD 100.
11QMelchizedek (11Q13), Qumran Cave 11, first century BC.
Babylonian Talmud, Hagigah 14a; Sanhedrin 38b, 94a.
The Great Isaiah Scroll (1QIsaa), Qumran Cave 1, copied about 125 BC.
Mishnah, Sanhedrin 7:5.
Septuagint Isaiah 9:6 (the Old Greek), second century BC.
Targum Jonathan on Isaiah 9:6.
Tobit 12:16-22.
Biblical citations:
Scripture quotations are from the English Standard Version (Crossway).
Genesis 5:24; 14:18-20; Exodus 13:21; 17:15; 19:9; 40:34; Deuteronomy 6:4; 33:26; Joshua 5:14; Judges 6:24; 2 Chronicles 26:16-21; Psalm 8:4; 104:3; 110:1, 4; Isaiah 9:2, 6-7; 10:21; 14:13-14; 19:1; Jeremiah 23:5-6; 33:14-26; Ezekiel 2:1; 48:35; Daniel 3:12; 6:16; 7:9, 13-14, 17-18, 21, 23, 27; 10:21; 12:1; Micah 5:2; Zechariah 1:9; Mark 12:35-37; 14:61-64; Revelation 19:10.
+Isaiah 9:6 is a Hebrew throne name, and throne names describe the god who backs the king rather than the king himself. Hezekiah's name means "the Lord strengthens," and nobody thought Hezekiah was God.
1. Throne names really do work that way.
Israelite names are often small sentences about God. Isaiah's own name means the Lord saves; Elijah's means the Lord is my God. A name with a divine element in it is not by itself a claim about the person carrying it, and any answer that ignores that is not an answer.
The strongest published version, argued by Jewish writers replying to Christian missionaries, adds two things:
- The four names can be read as one long sentence in praise of God rather than as four titles of the boy, and Jewish translations render the verse that way.
- The oldest Greek translation of Isaiah, made by Jews in the second century BC, does not carry the four names at all. It calls the child Messenger of Great Counsel and leaves the divine words out.
2. The Greek translator's choice tells its own story.
The Hebrew text here is not in doubt. The Great Isaiah Scroll, copied about 125 BC, carries the verse, and what the Hebrew says is not what anybody is arguing about.
- Isaiah in Greek is a loose translation throughout, closer to a running paraphrase than the Greek of the books of Moses is. A translator who declines to hand a child the words Mighty God has told us something about how heavy those words felt in his hands.
- That only goes so far, and it cuts against the objection's other half while it goes. The Greek still gives the child a name of his own, Messenger of Great Counsel, rather than turning the line into a sentence about God. What the translator dropped was the loaded words, not the naming.
3. 'El gibbor is the same two words Isaiah uses of God one chapter later.
Hezekiah's name is a sentence: the Lord strengthens. 'El gibbor is not a sentence about God but a title naming somebody, Mighty God, and Isaiah 10:21 hands that title to the God of Israel, in the same book, in the same voice.
- Compare the other three names in the list. Wonderful Counselor, Everlasting Father and Prince of Peace can all be read as descriptions of a reign. Mighty God sits differently, and it sits differently because of what Isaiah does with it a chapter on.
- Most commentators, including plenty with no Christian stake in the outcome, read all four as throne names of the child, on the model of the multi-part names Egyptian kings took at their accession. The sentence reading is a real minority option with a long home in Jewish translation.
- A reader is entitled to hold that minority reading. It is a position, and it has to be argued against Isaiah 10:21 rather than around it.
4. The strand does not have to win alone.
Even conceding Isaiah 9:6 entirely, the objection has to meet the same phenomenon in four other books: the covenant name inside a king's title, an origin from ancient days, a man on the clouds taking the service of nations, and a priest seated at God's right hand (C1). A naming convention in one prophet does not cover a psalm about a priest-king or an Aramaic throne room.
+"Son of man" just means "human being," and Ezekiel is called it about ninety times. Reading Daniel's phrase as a divine title is exactly the sort of thing the Christian reading is accused of.
1. The objection is right about what the words mean.Ben adam in Hebrew and bar enash in Aramaic mean a human being, nothing more. "what is man that you are mindful of him, and the son of man that you care for him?" (Psalm 8:4) says the same thing twice in different words, which is how Hebrew poetry is built, so "son of man" there is simply another way of saying "man". Ezekiel is addressed that way throughout his book (Ezekiel 2:1). Nothing about the phrase itself makes anybody divine.
2. (P4) leans on the scene, not on the two words.
What carries the strand is not the phrase "son of man" but what happens to the figure it describes: he comes with the clouds of heaven, and all peoples serve him with the verb this book uses of service to a god.
- The phrase is doing the opposite job from the one the objection assumes. It is there to say the figure looks human, and that is precisely what makes the rest of the scene remarkable.
- Strip the title out entirely and the scene is unchanged. A human-looking figure arrives with the clouds of heaven and receives everlasting dominion.
3. A fixed title is not what the strand needs.
Maurice Casey argued at length that no such title existed in Judaism, that the Aramaic phrase is an ordinary idiom for a human being, and that the Gospels' usage grew out of that idiom rather than out of a ready-made expectation. Take all of that about the phrase as read. (P4) does not need a title. It needs a scene, and the scene stands there in Aramaic whatever the words inside it are doing.
- Granting the point about the phrase is not granting it about the figure. Who arrives on the clouds in Daniel 7 is argued over by scholars who agree entirely that "son of man" is ordinary Aramaic for a human being (D17).
See also:
• CE / Prophecy Fulfillment: Was Israel Already Waiting for a Messiah?
+Daniel explains his own vision, and the explanation is about a people rather than a person: the kingdom goes to "the saints of the Most High" (Daniel 7:18, 7:27). The son of man is a symbol for Israel.
1. This is the strongest objection to the strongest strand."But the saints of the Most High shall receive the kingdom and possess the kingdom forever, forever and ever." (Daniel 7:18) The saints are God's holy people, and most academic commentators take the figure to be a symbol for faithful Israel, or for the angel who stands in for Israel in heaven. That reading is held by scholars who know this book far better than most of its defenders, and the verses are quoted correctly.
2. The vision names its own symbols as individuals.
The angel is asked what the beasts are and gives a flat answer: "These four great beasts are four kings who shall arise out of the earth." (Daniel 7:17) Not four peoples. Four rulers.
- Six verses later the vision calls the fourth beast a kingdom instead (Daniel 7:23), and that interchange has to be admitted before it is used. It means verse 17 cannot prove the figure who follows the beasts is one person.
- What verse 17 does show is that reading a symbol in this vision as an individual ruler is the vision's own habit rather than a category later readers brought to it. A figure standing over against four kings, in the slot the vision has just defined as the ruler's slot, is most naturally a fifth ruler, and verse 18 does not shut that reading down by itself.
3. A king and his people are not competing answers.
Ancient royal texts move between a king and his kingdom constantly, because the king is the people gathered into one representative. The beasts are called both kings and kingdoms within a few verses of each other.
- So "the saints receive the kingdom" and "one like a son of man receives the kingdom" are not rival statements needing one of them to be false. They are how this vision talks.
- A newspaper can say France signed the treaty and that the president signed it, in consecutive paragraphs, and nobody thinks it has contradicted itself.
4. What the corporate reading still has to carry.
Calling a reading corporate means taking the figure to stand for a group rather than to be one person. On any reading, a figure in this vision arrives on the clouds and is served by all nations. If that figure is Israel, then Israel travels as God travels and takes what Daniel's own vocabulary reserves for a god. That is a striking claim in its own right, and it does not dissolve the difficulty. It relocates it.
- The fullest academic form of this objection is not corporate at all but angelic, identifying the figure with the archangel Michael (D17). That reading takes him for an individual too, so what the field argues about is who the figure is rather than whether he is anybody.
+The Aramaic word for "serve" is used of ordinary service too, and thirteen verses later Daniel may use it of what the nations render to God's people. Building a case on one verb is the overreach that makes this subject look dishonest.
1. The hardest verse for this strand sits inside the same chapter.Pelach can mean service in a general sense in Aramaic, and anyone claiming it always and only means worship has gone past the evidence. The sharp end is Daniel 7:27: "all dominions shall serve and obey him." If that "him" is the holy people who have just been handed the kingdom, then the same verb is rendered to somebody who is not God, later in the same chapter as the verse this strand leans on.
2. Who that "him" is remains genuinely unsettled.
Commentators and translators divide over whether the "him" of 7:27 is the Most High or the people of the saints, and the Aramaic does not decide it. Nobody should be told the question is closed.
- So the claim stops where the evidence stops: every unambiguous use of the verb in Daniel is service rendered to a god.
3. Where the book is clear, it is clear.
Daniel is short and its usage does not wander. Pelach is what Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego refuse to give the golden image (Daniel 3:12), and what Daniel gives his God in the lions' den, in the mouth of the king who put him there: "May your God, whom you serve continually, deliver you!" (Daniel 6:16)
- A word's meaning in the mouth of one writer is settled by what that writer does with it, not by what the language permits elsewhere.
- "Address" means one thing on an envelope and another at a podium, and you work out which from the sentence you are standing in.
4. And the verb is not carrying the strand by itself.
It sits beside the cloud-riding, the everlasting dominion and the vision's habit of naming its symbols as individual rulers (P4). Take the verb out and a figure in human form still arrives the way God arrives and receives a kingdom that does not pass away.
+Cloud-riding is poetic imagery borrowed from Canaanite myth about a storm god, and Daniel's figure comes with the clouds rather than riding them. Treating a metaphor as a claim to deity is pressing it well past what it will bear.
1. Three parts of this objection are simply correct.
- The Aramaic preposition at Daniel 7:13 is "with" rather than "on", so the figure travels in the company of the clouds rather than on one as a chariot.
- A cloud-rider approaching an aged high god is a picture at home in the Ugaritic poems, the Canaanite religious texts dug out of a Syrian coastal mound in the 1920s, where the rider is the storm god Baal and the ancient one is the high god El.
- Daniel 7 is an apocalypse, a vision told in symbols from end to end, so the clouds may be saying where the figure comes from rather than what he is.
All three are worth granting before anything is said back.
2. In the Hebrew Bible only God travels that way.
The question is not whether the language is figurative. Of course it is. The question is who gets to be the subject of it, and in these Scriptures that mode of travel is not shared out.
"he makes the clouds his chariot" (Psalm 104:3). "Behold, the Lord is riding on a swift cloud and comes to Egypt" (Isaiah 19:1). "There is none like God, O Jeshurun, who rides through the heavens to your help" (Deuteronomy 33:26).
- Deuteronomy's line is doing more than describing. It offers the cloud-riding as the very thing that makes God incomparable.
- The preposition is a thin place to stand. Clouds in these Scriptures go with God arriving: the thick cloud on Sinai, the pillar that went ahead of Israel, the cloud that filled the tabernacle on the day it was finished (Exodus 13:21; 19:9; 40:34). Cloud and appearance travel together across the Hebrew Bible in dozens of passages, and Daniel 7:13 is the one place where the imagery lands on somebody who is not straightforwardly God.
- The nearest thing to an exception proves the rule. The king of Babylon says in his heart, "I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will make myself like the Most High" (Isaiah 14:14), and Isaiah reports it as the boast that gets him thrown down to the pit. A man reaching for the clouds is the picture of blasphemous overreach.
- Beyond that boast, no prophet, no king, no angel and no patriarch rides the clouds anywhere in these Scriptures. If a counter-example turned up, (P4) would need rewriting, and that is what makes it a real claim rather than a slogan: one verse could break it.
3. Where the imagery came from is not what it means in Daniel.
The Ugaritic parallel is real and widely accepted, and it is odd ground for a critic to stand on.
- If the image is inherited, what is inherited is a picture of a god. Israel took it over and gave it to the God of Israel alone, which is exactly the reservation being claimed.
- Words carry their meaning from the mouth using them. Our days of the week are named after Norse gods, and nobody thinks a dentist's appointment on Thursday is an act of devotion to Thor.
4. The pattern is what carries it, not the single image.
Daniel's figure arrives that way and then receives a kingdom that never ends and service from every nation. Any one of those could be stretched. The three together, in six verses, are harder to explain as decoration, and none of the three needs the preposition to be "on".
+This is cherry-picking. You have taken five verses out of a library that says on nearly every page that God is one, and built a doctrine out of the exceptions.
1. The main current of the Hebrew Bible is exactly as described."Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one." (Deuteronomy 6:4) Jews call that line the Shema, after its first word in Hebrew, "hear," and it is recited morning and evening. It is the confession Israel has died for. There is no honest way to present these five texts as the drift of the Hebrew Bible. They are unusual, and they are being presented as unusual.
2. Unusual texts are not thereby unimportant.
The claim is narrow. Alongside the main current there are passages describing a coming figure in terms that go past a human king, and those passages sit in the Hebrew Bible rather than having been imported into it.
- A body of law can be overwhelmingly consistent and still contain the one provision that decides a hard case.
- Whether the exceptions can be held together with the main current is a real question, and it is a question Christians answer with the doctrine of the Trinity, that the one God is three persons, rather than by ignoring one side of it.
3. The selection is not arbitrary.
These are the passages Jews and Christians have actually fought over for two thousand years, and anybody can go and check that. Rabbinic tradition quarrels over the plural thrones of Daniel 7:9, one of the five, and it quarrels over them because of what a reader might do with the second throne. Nobody chose these texts for being obscure.
+Jewish belief in one God had room for exalted figures without making them God. Angels, Enoch, Metatron, the Logos in Philo: a figure who acts for God is not a second God.
1. The best-informed version of this objection is largely right.
Second Temple Judaism, the Judaism of the centuries between the rebuilding of the temple after the exile in Babylon and its destruction by Rome in AD 70, insisted that there is one God and no other, and it still spoke freely of a crowded heaven.
- Enoch is the man in Genesis who "walked with God, and he was not, for God took him" (Genesis 5:24). Later Jewish books seat him on a throne of glory.
- Metatron is the exalted angel of some later rabbinic and mystical writings, placed so high that one famous story has a visitor to heaven wonder whether there are two powers after all.
- Philo, a Jewish philosopher in Alexandria who died about AD 50, wrote at length about God's Logos, his Word or reason, as the go-between through whom God deals with the world.
- An intermediary, meaning a figure who stands between God and the world and acts for him, is not by itself a second God. Being exalted very high is not the same thing as being God, and the objection is right to press the difference.
2. It also concedes the thing the strand needs.
The claim in (C2) is that the categories were inside Judaism rather than imported into it. An objection that establishes a rich Jewish vocabulary for heavenly figures has granted the historical point and moved the dispute to a different question: not whether Jews had such categories, but how far these particular texts go. That second question was argued inside Judaism long before Christians joined in, and it is being argued there still.
3. Three features of Daniel 7 sit awkwardly with an ordinary intermediary.
- The line Jewish belief in one God drew was not a line about how exalted a figure could get. It was a line about worship, and the literature keeps it carefully. In Tobit, a Jewish story from perhaps 200 BC, the angel Raphael finally tells the family he has rescued to bless God and not him. When John falls at an angel's feet the answer is immediate: "You must not do that! I am a fellow servant with you and your brothers who hold to the testimony of Jesus. Worship God." (Revelation 19:10) Daniel's figure does the opposite. He receives the service of all nations, with the verb Daniel reserves for a god (P4).
- What he is given is not an errand, either. Everlasting dominion over every people is God's own rule in these Scriptures, not a commission a servant carries out on his behalf.
- He arrives by a mode of travel the same Scriptures use of God alone (D5).
- None of that is decisive on its own, and a reader who concludes that the figure is a very high angel has taken a serious position.
+The rabbinic two-powers rulings are aimed at Christians. Using them as evidence that Jews read the texts this way is circular: the rulings exist because Christians existed.
1. The dates support the worry.
The rulings were gathered from about AD 200 onward, more than a century after the New Testament was written, and Christian readings of these verses were certainly among the things the rabbis had in view.
2. That limit is already built into (P6).
The rulings cannot show what anyone believed before Jesus, and who the two-powers readers were is disputed. If every one of them turns out to have been a Christian, this strand drops to nothing and the other five stand where they were (C1, C2). Hold it loosely; nothing else depends on it.
3. What the rulings still show on the objection's own terms.
The rabbinic quarrel fastens on particular verses, and Daniel 7:9 is one of them. The Talmud keeps a rabbi explaining the second throne as the Messiah's and being told he is profaning God's presence (Hagigah 14a). That tells us this text was felt to be exposed, by readers who knew Hebrew and Aramaic natively and had every reason to close it off.
- A verse nobody could read that way is not a verse anybody needs to legislate about.
+Christians read these texts through the Trinity and then say they found it there. Any body of literature will yield a pattern if you already know what you are looking for.
1. The danger is real for everybody, Christians included.
Reading a text with the conclusion already in hand is how most bad interpretation happens, and no reader is exempt. A Jewish reader with the Shema firmly in view is doing the same thing from the other side, which is why neither community can settle this by looking inward.
2. Every load-bearing fact here can be checked without sharing the conclusion.
- Whether Isaiah uses 'el gibbor of God at 10:21 is a fact about Isaiah's vocabulary.
- Whether cloud-riding is ever used of a man elsewhere is a fact about the Hebrew Bible, and a reader can go and look.
- Whether Daniel's angel identifies the beasts as kings is a fact about Daniel 7:17.
- Whether the rabbis quarrelled over the second throne of Daniel 7:9 is a fact about their texts.
Every one of those is answerable by somebody who thinks the conclusion is false.
3. The pattern was noticed by people who did not want it.
The two-powers rulings exist because somebody was reading these texts this way and the rabbis wanted them to stop (P6). Whoever those readers were, the pattern was visible from inside the tradition and not only from outside it.
+Even if all five texts said what you claim, none of them says the Messiah is God; each of them describes a figure. Joining them into one person is a Christian move, not a Jewish one.
1. Not one of these passages says a coming Messiah will be divine.
That is exactly right, and it is granted without qualification. Each of the five describes a figure in unusual terms, and reading them as one person is a judgment made across texts rather than a statement any of them makes.
2. Making the judgment is a reading, and so is refusing it.
Whether five texts across five books describe one figure is not settled by any of the five. It is settled by how well the reading accounts for the whole set, which is the ordinary way a case like this is argued.
- Jewish tradition has largely declined to make the join, and that refusal is a serious position seriously held (C1).
3. And the reading is not only made by Christians.
The two-powers rulings quarrel over one of these same passages, the second throne of Daniel 7:9, which means somebody inside the tradition was reading it of a figure beside God and had to be told to stop (P6).
4. The claim is about Israel's Scriptures, not about the incarnation.
Two things are claimed and no more: that Israel's Scriptures contain a coming figure described in more-than-human terms (C1), and that the categories were Jewish before they were Christian (C2). Not that any Hebrew verse teaches the incarnation, which is the Christian claim that God became a man in Jesus.
+Jeremiah gives Jerusalem almost the same name he gives the Branch. If a city can be called "The Lord is our righteousness," the title proves nothing about the one who holds it.
1. The objection quotes the text correctly."And this is the name by which it will be called: The Lord is our righteousness." (Jeremiah 33:16) The name is applied to Jerusalem ten chapters after it is applied to the king, and that costs this strand something real. (P2) raises the verse itself rather than waiting to be caught with it, and the pattern behind the objection is wider than the one verse.
- Israel named things with sentences about God all the time. Moses named an altar for the Lord being his banner, Gideon named one for the Lord being peace, and the city at the close of Ezekiel is named for the Lord being there (Exodus 17:15; Judges 6:24; Ezekiel 48:35).
- Nobody thought the altar was God. Any answer that pretends otherwise is not answering.
2. What survives the concession is thin.
Carrying the name was never the whole of (P2), and if the strand rested on the name alone these verses would break it. What remains is that a prophet gives a coming Davidic king a title built out of the covenant name, in a passage about his reign and his justice. That belongs in the pattern, at the weight the difficulty leaves it, and (P2) is named among the weaker strands for exactly this reason (C1).
3. The easy way out of this verse is refused.Jeremiah 33:14-26 is missing from the Greek Old Testament altogether, the largest single passage in Jeremiah that the Greek does not have, and the Dead Sea copies of Jeremiah support the shorter text in places. A defender who wanted to could argue that the awkward verse is a late addition and drop it.
- That would be a cheap exit and it is refused. The verse stands in the Hebrew Bible Jews and Christians both read, and a case that reaches for textual criticism whenever a verse is inconvenient has stopped being an argument.
- The objection keeps its verse and the strand keeps its grade.
4. Losing the strand entirely changes nothing else.
Take (P2) out and Isaiah's 'el gibbor, Micah's ancient days, Daniel's throne room and the psalm's priest-king are all still standing, and none of them is touched by anything in Jeremiah 33.
+Psalm 110 is a coronation psalm. "The Lord says to my lord" is a court poet addressing the king, and Melchizedek is a way of saying the king had priestly functions in Jerusalem, as kings did all over the ancient world.
1. The coronation setting is granted.
Most scholars read Psalm 110 as written for the crowning of an Israelite king, and the language of a courtier addressing his sovereign as "my lord" is exactly what that setting would produce.
2. The priesthood is the part that does not fit an ordinary Judean king.
Israel is not "all over the ancient world" on this point, and its own records show it.
- Uzziah entered the temple to burn incense and the priests stopped him: "It is not for you, Uzziah, to burn incense to the Lord, but for the priests, the sons of Aaron" (2 Chronicles 26:18). He left with leprosy on his forehead.
- Whatever priestly aura a Davidic king carried, the one priestly act Uzziah attempted got him struck down, and his own chronicler records it.
- A psalm swearing a permanent priesthood to a king, by divine oath, is doing something the rest of the record does not permit.
3. First-century readers heard more in it than a coronation.
Jesus raises the psalm in the temple as a puzzle about how the Messiah can be David's son and David's lord (Mark 12:35-37), and nobody in the crowd tells him he has misread a coronation liturgy. Its opening verse is then quoted or echoed all through the New Testament, in something over twenty places on the usual counts, which makes it the most heavily used verse of Israel's Scriptures in that literature. Totals like that move up and down with how loose an echo a scholar is willing to count. The ranking is not seriously disputed.
- All of that sits behind a phrase most Christians say without thinking: at the right hand of God.
- It is evidence about how the psalm was read in that century, and a reading that has to call the whole of it a misunderstanding is carrying a load of its own.
+The Christian reading of Daniel 7 depends on Daniel being an early book. On the dating most scholars hold, it is second-century BC propaganda about the crisis under Antiochus, and it predicts nothing.
1. That dating is granted in full.
Most scholars date the book, in the form we have it, to about 165 BC and the crisis under Antiochus IV, the Greek king of Syria who outlawed Jewish worship and set up a pagan altar in the Jerusalem temple. None of that is disputed. (P4) calls Daniel's date clean precisely because the latest scholarly dating still leaves the book two centuries early.
2. What the strand needs is priority, not antiquity.
The point is not that Daniel is old. The point is that it is earlier than the people accused of inventing this, and a Daniel written about 165 BC is roughly two centuries before the trial in Mark 14 and before any Christian existed.
- Eight manuscripts of Daniel came out of the caves at Qumran above the Dead Sea, the earliest of them copied within decades of that date, so the text is physically attested before Christianity on anybody's reckoning.
3. Whether the vision predicts anything is a different argument.
Nothing in (P4) turns on Daniel 7 being predictive. It turns on what the vision describes and on when it was written down.
See also:
• CE / Prophecy Fulfillment: Were the Messianic Prophecies Written Before Jesus?
+Bart Ehrman's reconstruction accounts for all of this and needs none of it. Jewish monotheism already had room for exalted figures, and the Christian novelty was fitting that furniture to a crucified man after the fact.
1. The reconstruction's first move is a concession, not a denial.
On this account, Jewish belief in one God was more crowded than it is usually painted, with angels and exalted patriarchs occupying the space just below God. A conviction about Jesus then came first, after the crucifixion, and the texts were searched afterwards for language to carry it. That is a serious and widely held historical hypothesis with real evidence behind it, and calling it hostile does not answer it.
2. It grants what (C2) claims and disputes something else.
If Jewish monotheism already had these categories, and if the earliest Christians went to the Hebrew Bible and found material there, then the material was Jewish and the categories were Jewish, in the wrong century to have been planted by anybody. That is the whole of (C2), conceded by the objection in its first paragraph.
- The disagreement is about the order of events in the minds of the first believers, which is a question about them rather than about Isaiah's vocabulary.
- What is left in dispute is smaller than it sounds. Whether the first Christians were right about Jesus is untouched by any of this, and that is a question for the Gospels and for history.
3. Where the reconstruction has work to do.
It has to explain why the first Christians reached for these particular texts, several of which are difficult and none of which is an obvious recruiting tool. A priesthood after the order of a man who appears for three verses in Genesis and then vanishes is a strange thing to reach for if what you want is something persuasive.
- If the trial scene has any historical basis at all, it also has to explain why the reported reaction is a charge of blasphemy rather than a shrug (D18).
- A critic can answer both of those, so neither is a refutation. They mark where the real disagreement lies.
See also:
• CE / Prophecy Fulfillment: Was the Prophecy Fulfillment Manufactured?
+The Hebrew of Isaiah 9:6 is past tense: a child has been born, a son has been given. Isaiah is talking about a king of his own day, most likely Hezekiah, and not about anybody centuries away.
1. The tense is exactly what the objection says it is.
Hebrew verbs come in two main shapes, and the one standing behind "a child is born" is the perfect, the shape that normally reports something already done. So a plain rendering really is that the child has been born. Most scholars read the oracle as written for the birth or the crowning of a Judahite king, and Jewish tradition has long proposed Hezekiah, the reforming king who came to the throne while Isaiah was still preaching. All of that is granted.
- Hebrew does also use the perfect of things not yet done, in the mouth of a prophet announcing something he takes to be already settled. Grammarians argue over how far that stretches, so nothing is built on it. What can be said is that the same tense runs through the whole oracle, including the light dawning on a people who walked in darkness (Isaiah 9:2), so the tense by itself does not fix where in time the passage stands.
2. Whoever the child is, the strand is about the language spent on him.
The claim is not that Isaiah was thinking of a figure seven centuries off. It is that a son of David is handed 'el gibbor, the two words Isaiah gives to the God of Israel one chapter later (Isaiah 10:21).
- A vocabulary is a fact about a book. It stays a fact whether the child in view was in the palace that year or not.
3. The reign described is not a reign that any king in Jerusalem had."Of the increase of his government and of peace there will be no end" (Isaiah 9:7). Hezekiah's government ended, and Judah's monarchy ended altogether with Zedekiah in a burning city in 586 BC.
- A court poet can flatter. Announcing a reign with no end at either edge of the sentence, on a named throne, is a strange way to flatter a man whose funeral you may attend.
4. Jewish tradition itself did not treat Hezekiah as the end of the matter.
The Targum, the running Aramaic paraphrase of Isaiah read aloud in the synagogues, applies this passage to the Messiah, while assigning the great names to God rather than to him. The Talmud, for its part, has a discussion in which God considers making Hezekiah the Messiah and does not (Sanhedrin 94a).
- Both of those are honest evidence and they cut both ways. The passage was read of a coming figure inside Judaism, and the divine names were kept away from him inside Judaism too.
See also:
• CE / Prophecy Fulfillment: Was the Virgin of Isaiah 7:14 a Mistranslation?
+Psalm 110:1 uses adoni, the form Hebrew keeps for a human master and never uses of God. The verse says in so many words that the second lord is not divine.
1. The objection is right about the Hebrew.
Hebrew distinguishes adonai, my Lord, used of God, from adoni, my lord, used of a superior who is not God. Psalm 110:1 has the second form, and everywhere else it appears it points at a human master or at an angel: Joshua to the commander of the Lord's army (Joshua 5:14), Zechariah to the angel walking him through a vision (Zechariah 1:9).
- Hebrew was written for centuries with consonants and no vowels, so in the manuscripts the two forms look identical, and the small marks that tell them apart were added by scribes hundreds of years later. That is worth knowing, and nothing turns on it.
2. (P5) never claimed the second lord is called God.
The strand says so itself, in so many words: the psalm's speaker is calling somebody his lord who is not God, and God is speaking to that person. The title was never the evidence.
3. What carries the strand is the seat and the oath.
A figure who is explicitly not God is invited to sit at God's right hand, and three verses later God swears him into a priesthood that never ends and that runs outside Aaron's family altogether (Psalm 110:1, 4).
- Israel enforced the line between king and priest hard enough to leave a king a leper for crossing it (2 Chronicles 26:16-21).
- Ruling out that the second lord is God makes the psalm stranger, not tamer. Somebody who is not God is given God's right hand and a priesthood by divine oath, and the question of who that is stays open.
+The figure in Daniel 7 is an angel, most likely Michael, the prince who stands up for Israel at Daniel 12:1. That is John J. Collins's reading in the standard critical commentary, and it is nobody's partisan position.
1. The case for the angel reading is not thin.
This is the leading reading in the academic literature, and it has earned that place. In Daniel and in the Dead Sea Scrolls, "holy ones" usually means angels rather than human beings, so "the saints of the Most High" who receive the kingdom at 7:18 are plausibly the heavenly host. Michael is named twice as Israel's own prince, "Michael, your prince" (Daniel 10:21) and "Michael, the great prince who has charge of your people" (Daniel 12:1). A book that assigns an angel to each nation is a book where an angel receiving Israel's kingdom fits without strain.
2. Inside chapter 7 the evidence pulls both ways.
The chapter itself does not hand the question to either side, and the split runs right through the field.
- "As I looked, this horn made war with the saints and prevailed over them" (Daniel 7:21). A tyrant defeating angels is a strain; a tyrant defeating a persecuted people is what was happening when the book took its present shape.
- Verse 27 hands the kingdom to "the people of the saints of the Most High," which reads most easily as a people. Those who take the holy ones as angels answer that this means the people belonging to the angels, and that answer is available to them.
3. The angel reading relocates the difficulty rather than removing it.
Michael never rides the clouds. Nowhere in these Scriptures does any angel travel that way, and in this literature angels refuse the service Daniel's figure receives (D5, D7).
- So on the angel reading, Israel's Scriptures contain a second figure in heaven who does what God does and takes what is rendered to a god. That is the two-powers question in its sharpest form, arrived at by the mainstream route.
4. Jewish readers took the figure for one person without Christian help.
Three Jewish sources do it, and none of them is a Christian document.
- 1 Enoch is a Jewish collection of visions written under the name of the Enoch of Genesis. Its section called the Book of Parables takes Daniel's son of man as one chosen figure, seats him on a throne of glory and has him judge. Most scholars now date that section around the turn of the era, and no copy of it turned up at Qumran, which keeps the dating argument alive.
- 4 Ezra 13, a Jewish apocalypse from about AD 100, has a man rise from the sea and fly with the clouds of heaven, and it is drawing on Daniel 7 to do it.
- The Talmud keeps a rabbi reading the second throne of Daniel 7:9 as the Messiah's, and keeps the rebuke he got for it (Hagigah 14a).
- None of that is a fringe handling of the evidence. Collins himself argues elsewhere that these texts show first-century Jews reading Daniel's figure as a heavenly Messiah, which is a Jewish reading of a Jewish book whatever the vision meant when it was written.
5. What the strand needs, and what it does not.
It needs Israel's Scriptures to contain a figure in human form who travels as God travels and receives what this book reserves for a god. Every reading of the figure's identity leaves that standing.
- What the angel reading takes away is the direct line from this figure to a coming Davidic king. That line is drawn by the Jewish readers of Enoch, 4 Ezra and the Talmud rather than by (P4), and (P4) is one strand of five (C1).
+The trial in Mark is a Christian composition, and by Jewish law claiming to be Messiah was not blasphemy. Using the high priest's torn robe as evidence about how these texts were heard is calling the defendant's own supporters as witnesses.
1. Both the source problem and the legal problem are real.
Mark is a Christian document written decades after the night it describes, the disciples had scattered, and the Gospel does not say who reported the exchange. The Mishnah, the earliest written collection of rabbinic law, sets a narrow rule: a man is not guilty of blasphemy unless he pronounces the divine Name, which is not what the scene reports (Sanhedrin 7:5). Serious historians doubt the details, and they are not being unreasonable.
2. The rule was written down about a hundred and seventy years after the event.
The Mishnah was compiled around AD 200 and sets out the procedure of a court that no longer met, so a second-century definition cannot settle first-century practice either way. The fullest study of the charge across the Jewish sources of the period finds it used a good deal more widely than that rule allows, covering words that insult God and claims that trespass on what belongs to God alone.
- Israel's own record supplies an instance with no Christian anywhere in it. A rabbi who read the second throne of Daniel 7:9 as the Messiah's was told he was profaning God's presence (Hagigah 14a), and nobody in that exchange had pronounced the Name (P6).
- None of that settles what a first-century court would have ruled, and nothing in (P4) or (P5) needs it settled. The scene is offered as one first-century report of how two verses sounded when they were put together, and a report is what it stays.
3. Strip the trial out entirely and (P4) and (P5) are untouched.
Daniel 7 is Aramaic and was copied at Qumran before Christianity existed. Psalm 110 is Hebrew and sat in Israel's hymnbook for centuries. Neither text needs a corroborating witness to say what it says.
- The trial is counted once, not once for Daniel and again for the psalm (C1).
See also:
• CE / NT Criticism: Early Dating and Eyewitness Proximity of the New Testament